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084 – Networking on the Road with Jake Kelfer

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Bryan Paul Buckley 0:01
Episode 84 of the Elite Road Warrior podcast. Welcome to the Elite Road Warrior podcast where we believe you can leverage the road to transform your work, health, and home life while on business travel to ultimately master the business travel life. If you’re a road warrior, and a great chance you’re on the road right now then this podcast is for you.

Bryan Paul Buckley 0:31
Welcome to the Elite Road Warrior podcast. I’m your host Bryan Paul Buckley, fellow Road Warrior husband of one father of five, and love me some podcast interviews. But as always committed each and every business trip to becoming and remaining an elite road warrior and as always, I’d love nothing more than for you to join my master evil plan on this road trip.

Bryan Paul Buckley 0:54
Well, you’re gonna enjoy today’s conversation, because this guy was someone rare who reached out to me and in a way that caught my attention immediately, and ultimately led to this podcast interview. So let’s meet Jake Kelfer. Jake is a lifestyle entrepreneur, life elevator, and coach to ambitious entrepreneurs and freedom seekers helping people create incredibly impactful and profitable businesses. He’s the best selling author of two books elevate beyond and elevate your network. And that second book we’re gonna unpack a lot today, but he’s also a high energy motivational speaker and the founder of the professional basketball combine, which helps NBA Draft prospects turn their dreams of playing pro basketball into their reality. He and his work had been featured on Forbes, Sports Illustrated, ESPN, and many other major media outlets.

Bryan Paul Buckley 1:46
But in a moment, I’ll be asking Jake the following questions. Why is connecting with people on the road so vitally important? What are some key principles of connecting with people on the road that we should apply immediately? How do you elevate your elevator pitch? How do you get drinks the right way? How do we make networking part of our routine without feeling overwhelmed or wasting time? And so much more.

Bryan Paul Buckley 2:28
I am live right now with Jake Kelfer, where are you and how are you, my man?

Jake Kelfer 2:33
Bryan, what’s going on man, calling in doing this podcast from Santa Monica, California and I am I pumped. Let me tell you it to be chatting with you today.

Bryan Paul Buckley 2:42
Man, right there. I don’t know how you top that. So the only other question I’ve got to ask on that. Lakers or Clippers?

Jake Kelfer 2:49
Lakers 100%

Bryan Paul Buckley 2:51
All right. All right. See and I’m struggling Bulls fan on there. And I mean obviously brought that up because you have this professional basketball combine background so before we jump in and let’s do a little opening banter here. Tell us more about that. What is that? What’s that look like? You know and unpack that a little bit?

Jake Kelfer 3:08
Yes. So before I dive into like the professional basketball combine and I know the listeners can’t see but I got my shirt on today I’m representing, but us Lakers clippers like I grew up a diehard Lakers fan basketball is one of my biggest passions and loves of my life. And my first job when I graduated college, was working for the Lakers during Kobe Bryant’s final NBA season, I had experience with Jerry West that changed the way I viewed life like wow, these things led to this point of trying to get basketball back into my life. And once I had left the Lakers, I had written my first book, started speaking, but I wanted to be back in sports. And so I came up with this idea to create a secondary NBA Draft combine, which we call the professional basketball combine.

Jake Kelfer 3:51
And basically what we did was we put together a secondary event that would allow prospects who weren’t invited by the NBA, The top 60 to 70 prospects, we actually got to invite those players to our event, put them through three on three scrimmages got to put them through workout drills, all the testing that all the other players did so we can compare them. And we got to put on this incredible event with the hope of bringing 24 players to one location bring teams out. And it has been an incredible blessing that’s putting out 70 guys on rosters in 31 countries across the globe.

Bryan Paul Buckley 4:24
That’s amazing. Man, what a cool legacy on that, and that loves the entrepreneurial side. love doing one of your passion things so thanks for unpacking that just for a minute. And you’ve got two books that are out right now. Elevate beyond and elevate networking Can you just give us as a listen and we’re gonna dive into elevate networking a lot more. Just kind of a little bit perspective on those two books.

Jake Kelfer 4:44
So elevate beyond was the first book I ever wrote. Now I had a dream that one day after I had a successful career, then I would write my books and speak and travel the world. But what I found was that I had the idea of success backward and it was about enjoying it making a difference, and then doing all the work stuff, right? And creating, creating all that or why couldn’t the fun stuff be the work stuff as well. And so when I was working for the Lakers, I would drive and get there every morning, about two hours before I get into the office. And I’d write my first book, which became elevate beyond, which is all about how to stand out in the job market, discover your passion. And basically what it really is, is it’s my experiences of going through college and getting a job going to networking events, going to resume workshops, interview, mock interviews, and all that stuff. And then combining it with incredible people who have tons of work experience so that as a 23-year-old, it added to my credibility. And when you combine those two, it became this incredible guide that helped people land their dream job. So that was the first book.

Jake Kelfer 5:46
And then my second book, which we’re going to talk a lot about today is called elevate your network. And that book, The premise of why I wrote that book was because I believe that we’re all in the business of people. There is nothing that happens if we don’t have customers in business. There’s nothing that happens in our growth, if we don’t have mentors, nothing we can do in our life that’s going to bring us the success and the fulfillment we’re looking for will happen without other human beings, you can look in every aspect of your life, and people are the driving force behind our success. And so I wrote down, I took the best keys at that, and I call them kelf keys based on my last night and have a little bit of fun. And I kind of put the best 25 that I had that had gotten me to where I was in my career at that point, and put them in a book form and was able to share that which became my second best-selling book that has been read all over the world.

Bryan Paul Buckley 6:35
That’s awesome, man. I love it. In fact, you referenced you know, a mock interview. I thought that meant making fun of it initially, but I learned that’s not the case in your book. So thank you for clearing that up. Just kidding on that. So when we talked Originally, we clicked big time on that one specific topic or value of connecting with people. And I love that and that’s your passion. And that’s why I couldn’t wait to have you on this on this podcast. So first question out of the gate here and I don’t mean airplane gate. Why is connecting with people on the road specifically, so vitally important, Jake?

Jake Kelfer 7:06
Well, there’s I mean, there’s so much to unpack here, right? But I think, you know, look, when you’re on the road, we oftentimes change our routines, from when we’re doing our normal thing that we get on the road, all of the routines, all the things that we practice our habits, they change, because our schedules change, and we have to adjust. So one of the biggest reasons that I personally love connecting on the road outside of doing business deals outside of, you know, executing on high level projects. One of the reasons I love connecting with people is because it’s an opportunity to catch up with old friends, it’s an opportunity to meet new people. And it’s also an opportunity to feel connected, when traveling can become so isolated. And I think that that’s something that’s really

Bryan Paul Buckley 7:44
let’s hit on that. I’ll say that once. One more time. That’s really good.

Jake Kelfer 7:47
So I think it’s really powerful because traveling can be isolating. Exactly and connecting with people will bring you together and fill the gaps in some of that travel. Now, I think it’s also really important because one thing that I talked about a lot is is about the most important relationship is the one with ourselves. And I think that that relationship is also something that we can nurture and connect with on the road. Because we have time where our phones are on Do Not Disturb. We’re on airplane mode, we’re in the gate with nobody, sometimes nobody to talk to because there’s no one there. And other times it’s packed. And so it’s been a really great like when you travel on the road, it’s such a great way to practice new connecting techniques to reflect on your own thoughts, as well as to build new and incredible relationships. And it also makes traveling more fun when you’re really connecting. And I go through life trying to have a good time. I want to look back on all my days when it’s all said and done and say I made the most of this life. I won the game and traveling on the road and connecting on the road. It’s just part of the game. So I play to win. And that comes with connecting.

Bryan Paul Buckley 8:45
Great response. So what are some key principles then Jake of connecting with people on the road that whether they may be something we already know, we just need to be reminded of or maybe give us an aha moments? What are a few that you would recommend?

Jake Kelfer 8:58
Yeah, I mean, I think on the road you know, you always got to have that feeler out first, right? Because you have people on the road especially new people that you don’t know that are like, do I really want to talk to this person? Do they really want to talk to me and you got that awkward kind of feeling which normally stops people, it stops people enough to where they never make that first introduction.

Bryan Paul Buckley 9:17
Well, you know, Jake is the universal sign on a plane is the headphones, you know, you put the pitcher universal Do Not Disturb on and you’re right, there’s a level of awkwardness that’s there or whatever. So how do you handle that? What do you how do you overcome those things?

Jake Kelfer 9:32
We got to respect the headphones, right? You don’t want to be that guy, right? You don’t want to be that person that just they just ruin somebody’s day because then nobody’s getting the W. But what you got to do is you got to make that first interaction. Let’s talk about a plane right? When someone comes in and I call it the hustle and bustle, right? Because you’re in a plane you’re hustling and bustling. And what it is, is just that first time you sit down, right that first time you sit down, make that quick introduction. Make that quick introduction. here’s the key that differentiates people from Like a super quick combo to know Convo, and that’s asking the right question. It’s asking the right question and getting that conversation started immediately. Because you don’t have time, especially on a plane when you’re traveling to try to build up into the conversation.

Bryan Paul Buckley 10:14
So then give me a couple examples of what the right question would be.

Jake Kelfer 10:18
So the right question, right, the right question relates to something that you can put the dots together right away. So when I see somebody coming in, if they have a book that they’re pulling out of their backpack, I inquire about their book, people always want to talk about that, right? If they’re wearing any type of sporting outfit, I’m talking about that their team, you’re dressed up in a certain way I’m inquiring about that. You want to ask about something that you probably can assume they’re excited about passionate about, or it’s an expression of who they are as a person. You can even go to the most generic thing, right? And if they have a cool backpack, or go suitcase, hey, that’s a really cool carry on what kind is it? Everybody loves to be complimented. And when you frame a compliment in the form of a question, it’ll immediately make that person feel more comfortable.

Bryan Paul Buckley 10:59
That’s really good. framing the compliment in a form of a question. Now that’s money right there that that’s a counteroffer right there, we need to make sure we catch on that. So that’s perfect on that. the right questions. Um, give me another one or two.

Jake Kelfer 11:12
Another one is when you ask these questions, you got to make sure you’re listening.

Bryan Paul Buckley 11:15
I’m sorry, I wasn’t paying attention. Would you say again?

Jake Kelfer 11:18
I love that.

Bryan Paul Buckley 11:18
I do not do that. Dude, I do that. No, you’re exactly right. Sometimes we ask the question, and then we act like we’re in it, we could care less so right?

Jake Kelfer 11:26
We asked the question, and then we’re already getting back into our seat and putting our headphones on, or getting on a phone looking at a text, right? We’re trying to build connection. So in order to build that connection, once you ask the question, listen to the response, because you never know who you’re talking to until you know who you’re talking to

Bryan Paul Buckley 11:42
Say that again.

Jake Kelfer 11:43
You don’t know who you’re talking to until you know who you’re talking to. Right. And you only will find out that information by listening to their responses and then diving deeper into that otherwise the conversation will end and it’s okay, sometimes this will happen sometimes there won’t be synergy there and that’s okay. But never missed out on an opportunity just because you weren’t paying attention or weren’t listening with the prospect with the intention to understand

Bryan Paul Buckley 12:08
or you stopped asking good questions, right questions, and then the conversation just does a painful death. So let’s, we referenced earlier this book, your book, The elevate your network, which I consumed, it was a great read a quick read a lot of practicalness out of there. And again, you reference the 25 keys. Love that great idea on that, you know, to build a stronger relationships in life and in business. So I’d like to hit on a few of these, and these are ones that stood out to me, especially with being a road warrior. Unpack for us what it means to elevate your elevator pitch.

Jake Kelfer 12:43
Yeah, of course. So I mean, the elevator pitch is a term that people use all the time, right. And I used it because it was elevate your elevator pitch kind of had that play on right there. But we’re looking at the end of the day, and this has evolved even since the book but at the end of the day, when somebody asks you what you do, or asks you who you are You have to have a good answer. The most successful businesses in today’s world and people that run businesses, especially people that are on the road, are able to get that answer out in one to two sentences. Being very, very clear on exactly who you are, what you’re done, what result you provide. And when you can really focus on that, it one, eliminates you having to try to explain everything else that you do. But it also allows that person to be very clear on what you do and connect dots quicker. So the clearer you are on what you say you do and your elevator pitch, the easier it is for someone to actually help you or to refer you or to dive deeper, developing that one on one relationship. Okay, so that’s good.

Bryan Paul Buckley 13:42
How does somebody do it? So they go, that’s a great idea. I need to be better at that. Or I could be better at that. How do you start to develop that?

Jake Kelfer 13:50
Why look as a guy who works in basketball, and there’s a guy who’s always about this belief that practice makes progress is this is a simple case of you just got to put in the work right. You got to evaluate “what exactly do you do?” And look, somebody might say, Well, I do a ton of things. I do a ton of things. Okay, pick one that you want to talk about right now. Right? Like if you’re involved in two different businesses, pick one business and roll with that. Now see what one people respond to better see what leads into it, play the room, look at your demographics of your audiences on social media, and then respond based off who the person is that you’re talking to. Right? You can be very methodical about your approach to a very simple question, right? And then the second thing that I would say is like, and I do this all the time, I’m like, Okay, what do I do? Who do I serve? What is the result I provide for people? Think about it, think about it, think about, and I kind of go over it, and I test it and I evaluate and I readjust. And I’m constantly doing this so that the more specific I get, it becomes automatic. And that’s what we’re trying to do is create an automatic response that is easy to understand.

Bryan Paul Buckley 14:54
That’s great. And oftentimes you can find if it’s not flying because there’s no follow up question. Or dude just goes back to his phone or fakes a hammy, you know, pulling a hammer or whatever. So you can you’re right about the feedback, you know, practice makes progress. love that quote, another one you’ve got, and I really liked this one was LinkedIn is the goat of business networking, unpack that one.

Jake Kelfer 15:18
So at the time of the book, LinkedIn, it still is, is one of the best platforms for you to be able to get your message out and be able to connect with people. It’s also the least invasive when it comes to traveling on the road and being in business. So LinkedIn is obviously we all know LinkedIn, right a professional networking platform, but when you’re talking about leveraging your experiences on the road to connect on LinkedIn follow up always reaffirms what it is that you just said in your elevator pitch, right? Because if you go on social media, and that person doesn’t use Instagram for business, which is likely going to be your second platform that you may check or Facebook, they’re likely not going to have their mission statement or what they do, but if you go on LinkedIn, it’s going to be easier to connect the dots again, because you’ll remember that person, you’ll see their location, you’ll see all of these things that remind you of who that person was. So in the scope of traveling LinkedIn is an incredibly powerful tool. But also, it’s what you call content deficient platform. There’s more people consuming content than there are people producing content. Therefore it’s a great platform for you to get more eyeballs, grow your followings quicker and ultimately create more leads for your business.

Bryan Paul Buckley 16:26
And for those of you that don’t know, goat is greatest of all time. And for those that don’t know, before we got on to this, we talked about the last dance, obviously being a Chicago Bulls fan and the greatest of all time and Michael Jordan on there. So really powerful. And I see your point, Jake, it does feed in I mean, you go for and that’s I methodically you know, from elevate your elevator pitch to moving into and taking that offline into well still online, but taking off the initial conversation moving into LinkedIn, and then also leveraging where it’s a lot of content is consumed that a lot of Put out there. So love it. That’s great. Now let’s have drinks because you brought up one that I loved and was very intriguing was to get drinks the right way, which is one of your health keys. So tell us about that.

Jake Kelfer 17:12
So I think there’s an art to getting drinks with colleagues and with coworkers or especially, you know, we’re just gonna play the theme on the road, right? That’s what this is all about. So we’re going to focus purely on that, like, I’m personally I’ve had, I’ve tried to have a lot of experience with this because I don’t like a lot of different drinks. And so one of the things that is super, super important when you’re getting drinks, the right way is to own your identity. Now, for a lot of people, some people when they get drinks, it leads four or five drinks, right? Well, if you know that that’s gonna happen. You got to understand what your tolerance is. You got to understand what does it take for you to get to a point where different words are to come out of your mouth, right? And depending on the industry, and depending on if you work for yourself or someone else, there’s a whole deeper process that we can dive into, of course, the most simply put is when you. You’re on the road, get the drink that’s going to make you feel the best in terms of bringing out the most confidence in yourself, the one that’s going to go down the easiest one that’s going to be easiest to communicate with. Right?

Jake Kelfer 18:11
So if you know you only have 30 minutes, it might be smart to grab one beer, right versus getting a drink that’s smaller like a cocktail that will be quicker to drink than maybe being that awkward like, do I get another one? Do I not, you don’t want to have the drink take you away from the meeting and the present moment. So I always like to I typically will get my favorite beer, which is Coors Light. I typically get a Coors Light when I’m ever having drinks because that’s me. It’s always a conversation starter. And it always is a simple way I know how that can last me anywhere from 15 minutes to 30 minutes if I need to and allows me to continue on. So when you’re getting drinks the right way. Don’t just do what the other person is doing. Don’t just like, be confident in your approach is essentially what the key method is of getting drinks the right way. And if you want to be adventurous Be it adventurous, but do it in a way where it’s still your choice, you’re not doing it because somebody else is expecting you to do it. Right. And that’s how you can really, really assert yourself from a drink standpoint.

Bryan Paul Buckley 19:11
And I love the psychology behind this Jake because oftentimes, it’s just what we do. We’re just we’re gonna get drinks with somebody or whatever, we don’t really think about the end result of that, and how much I have or what I have, will that take away or enhance the whole purpose of this conversation? Now, if it’s just coworkers, just chilling out, watching a ballgame or something like a different context, but most of the time, that’s not what we’re talking about here, right? We’re talking about a business transaction or a customer or whatever, that could lead to hopefully further business or furthering the relationship to your point in the network. I’ve got another one here. Well, do your research was another one of your kelf keys?

Jake Kelfer 19:51
Yeah, I love how we’re going through the Kelf keys. Now, this is great, because look, all these words designed to be practical to be put into use immediately and that’s what this podcast is going to give Everyone that’s listening. Like you can walk away here with a bunch of different things, but doing your research, okay? This, this is something that’s super, super important when it comes to networking. The easiest way to get in touch with somebody or to create empathy and compassion between a relationship is to establish a commonality. Okay. When I reached out to you for our first ever point of contact, what did I mention in that in that in that outreach, and I know you’re gonna remember this?

Bryan Paul Buckley 20:25
Yeah, the Energizer Bunny.

Jake Kelfer 20:27
The Energizer Bunny. And I also mentioned one other thing, which was that you traveled to every ballpark.

Bryan Paul Buckley 20:31
Oh, that’s right. That’s right. That was in the email the Energizer Bunny was in the subject.

Jake Kelfer 20:36
Yes. And so when you’re talking about doing your research, it’s about understanding who is the person that you are meeting, right. So let’s say you’re just meeting somebody for the first time trying to see if there’s potential for collaboration. Do your research, look, go to LinkedIn, that’s where you get your business research. Check out their Instagram profile, because Instagram is gonna allow you to get inside their personal life. So they’re not private, you can actually find something, then what you do and I call this the fun fact frenzy is you find 1-3 Fun Facts About that other person. And you bring those up early on in your initial outreach, or you bring it up when you’re actually talking to them because it forms that bond. Because people naturally gravitate to people that have something in common with them. Doing your research on the person is super important. If you’re trying to close a deal or close a sale, doing your research on that company is super important, right? Understanding previous transactions, understanding some of the previous buyer’s understanding, who are some of the other vendors that they’ve used if you’re trying to get a deal on a contract out of it, right? And being able to really understand the key talking points. Now, if you want to take it even one step further. Right. And let’s say you’re trying to get a deal. You’re a consultant, you’re a coach, you’re trying to get a deal with a company, you’re trying to get a contract. And you know, some of the other people that they’ve done, well, sometimes taking it to the next level as you call the other company. And you act as if you’re somebody you know, you pick up the phone, you’re like, Hey, I’m calling. I know you work with them, how was your experience with them? Right, and you try to get in and try to get the secret sauce. The further you go down the research rabbit hole, the easier it’s going to be to know what to say and how to say. So I love doing my research because I’m a big preparer big planner, big understanding that I’d rather save the time and invest the time now I can have more success on the back end.

Bryan Paul Buckley 22:13
And it allows you to go deep so quick. Yeah, it’s amazing when you notice somebody is a Michigan fan. And then I’ll bring up you know, the Buckeyes meaning Ohio State, I don’t have a dog in the race man, I’m from Chicago sound like I got a college sport, I can really really push you know, I’m saying you bring up little things like that. And you get somebody revved up pretty quick, or in a good way, you know, make a comment with their you know, about somebody from Cleveland. I’m like, Yes. You know, being from Chicago, you know, sorry about that, you know, and they’ll come on now, is there some level of that personal side, and it truly does change the chemistry of the conversation or even the business meeting, but you get your you talked about asking the right questions. Obviously, that’s when you don’t you’ve met somebody for the very first time you’ve not been able to do the research. But if I do know that I’m going to meet Jeff Johnson, and I do know from his LinkedIn profile, you know, he went to this school was a rival School of mine, or he was in sports or whatever to your points or the family from Instagram. It’s amazing, the brownie points that somebody, you know, notices that I do that you did that most people don’t. I noticed that you did that right away. And you got a really quick response from me. We just, I mean, sometimes it happens. I mean, I always respond, but I wanted to respond. Because I’m like, wow, this guy. This guy’s got some skills.

Jake Kelfer 23:31
Yeah. And here’s the crazy thing about this, right? One of the biggest reasons why people don’t do this don’t do their research or don’t go out of their way is because they think it takes a lot of time. People think sometimes that networking, it takes too much time and so much energy will look, the best networkers are the ones that have the best businesses, right? You look at some of the most successful in the world, they’re the most connected people in the world, and they’ve been able to bring the right people together, right? That’s huge. But look at this. Whenever you’re reaching out to someone if you’re trying to get a new client, let’s just focus on that for this process. perspective, you’re on the road, right? And you have five minutes before your next meeting, and you want to try to get something out for somebody new or a follow up. Literally, this will take you this process three to five minutes at most per outreach. And the more you do it, the quicker you get. So I can bust out 10 different pitches in 10 different pitches in an email. And I can do that in 25 minutes. And that’s 10 new contacts I’m probably gonna make and my response rates go through the roof, whether it’s on Instagram or email, and that just starts the downward spiral because then once you meet them, and you do a good job there, they’re gonna want to introduce you to somebody else. And then it starts spiraling all in a positive direction for you as the initial outreach because you took three minutes to invest.

Bryan Paul Buckley 24:41
And we have three minutes. Yeah, because I’m sitting next to the guy who doesn’t have three minutes who is on Instagram, Twitter, scrolling, so I know he’s got that it’s we’re really kind of when we get to come on, man. I mean, really, it’s a matter is it a priority, because you can’t give him give me an excuse. You don’t have the time. We’ll be back for the remainder of this interview after this short break?

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Bryan Paul Buckley 27:24
So speaking of that, let’s kind of go in a different direction. How do we make connecting and networking part of our routine that’s your point where it doesn’t feel like it’s a lot of time, doesn’t feel maybe overwhelming or possibly even a waste of time? How do we put that into our bones, the context of the road? How do we get that into our road routine, Jake?

Jake Kelfer 27:47
So you know, I was thinking about this before we jumped on here because this is something that that I’ve tried to practice and implement because I’m guilty as anybody of like, I am my routine I get, I get ready to go on the plane and that routine, just disappears, right? Netflix time increases, the music, the iTunes, the podcast, everything just increases. And then I skip out on some of the things that I consistently do on a regular basis. So one of the things that I’ve really focused on and I’ve read a bunch of books on the habits and really studied how can I put this psychology together. And one of the big things that we have to think about when we understand how habits are built in the first place, is we have to understand that some of them stemmed from our motivation, the more motivated we are, the more likely we are to do it for a single duration. Second thing is, is our ability. The best habits are the ones that are the easiest to do, right. If you put your clothes out in the morning, you’re more likely to put those clothes on and run. Right. So when you’re on the road and you’re getting ready to travel, there are certain things that I like to do called habit stacking, where I stack on the actions I want to take with things I’m already going to be doing. But that makes it easy while I’m getting on the road.

Jake Kelfer 28:49
So for example here, for example, let’s say you go you know, you’re going to go through security and you’re going to check in, okay, typically, what’s the first thing that you do after security is you go get a seat You sit down and wait till you’re bored. As soon as your computer opens up, use that as the trigger to send one outreach use that as a trigger to send one piece of networking communication, or one follows up or whatever it is, right, that’s gonna get you in the habit. Then when you’re doing it, you may already keep rolling, right? Here’s another thing. Let’s say you don’t want to do that. But let’s say you’re gonna check your email. As soon as you check your email, I call it the Gmail redirect. Okay? The Gmail redirect says that as soon as you pull out your email before you shut down your email, you send something out. What we’re doing when we’re on the road is just adding it to what we’re already doing. So that it’s easy for us to execute. Let’s say you want to meet somebody new? Well, the best way to meet somebody new is go sit closer to somebody, right? The best thing to do is that when you’re going to check in, focus on asking the right question, look for somebody that has something that you want to talk about, and go sit near them and ask them those questions right. Now. Again, don’t overdo it, and don’t be that annoying person in the airport. But very commonly, people, it’s proven that people actually become happier when other people initiate the convo. Even if both people don’t think initially they want to talk to each other. You can look at the study, but it was done on a train where people were talking to random strangers. And at the end of them, they both reported elevated happiness and fulfillment, even though initially, neither one of them would have ever said they weren’t talked to that other person. So that’s what it really is all about is like finding things you’re already doing. Figure out what you really want to do, that you’re not doing. Add that to what you’re already doing, and make it as easy as possible. And if you can do that, you’ll be able to execute big habits and networking along the road.

Bryan Paul Buckley 30:38
And those are great examples. I mean, you think about you know, it’s being strategic, you know, you’re walking into a room like a network, who do I want to connect with the same thing when you get to a gate or you walk into a bar at the airport, for example, or, you know, if I’m at an Embassy Suites, you know, and there’s a large area right there, that common area right in there, you’re looking around and seeing Who’s that person you can connect with you feel like there may be some synergy Is there. So those are great, great examples of that. So let’s talk a little bit more about you in these next couple of questions. Jake. You’re going moving into kind of this group coaching program. So why was it started? And can you tell us a little bit about that?

Jake Kelfer 31:15
Yeah. So, we’ve been developing and we have a bunch of people going through the program right now. It’s called elite elevation. And basically, what we what we’ve done and the reason why we did is because when I started the speaking business and the book writing business that kind of took off, we figured out how to do it, I figured out that system and it was all come back to relationships, right? When I started the combine, the only reason we had success was because of the relationship that we built. Now, here’s the thing people like, well, you probably had all the relationships, no, no, everything started from scratch, everything built. And I established and grew these networks in multiple different industries. And it led to very successful businesses. Also, it allowed me to travel and have freedom and enjoy the journey in the pursuit of greatness and it’s been able to catapult the success, right? So what we did was we boiled it all down. We’re like, what are the key things that are really bringing people to the top in their line of work, and how do we help people really start and grow their businesses. And that’s what elite elevation is. So elite elevation is our group coaching program that basically puts our core framework into video modules with handouts, activities, exercises, you get access to all of our templates and scripts and all these incredible things that like, let you see what are the pitches that I’m sending out that are getting 70 plus percent open rates and huge response rates, the same script I’m using to book 50 podcasts in a month, or whatever it is, right? We do Q and A’s weekly training sessions, mentor sessions, and it’s all part of this program. Um, and so we’re just I’m just super excited about it. And it’s been a joy because now we get to answer everyone’s questions of how did you do this? This is how we do it. And this is how you can do it and do it quickly.

Bryan Paul Buckley 32:44
Love it, man. And I’ll make sure that we’ve got a link in the show notes if anybody wants more information on that. So before I asked you how we find out more about you, any closing thoughts you want to leave with us today?

Jake Kelfer 32:55
I think no matter what it is that you’re doing, whether it’s on the road, whether it’s in person, whether you’re struggling to do something, whether you want to do more of something, right, because you’re on the road, you’re probably performing, right, you’re on the road you’re performing. And there are going to be times where we hesitate to start. And I’ll just leave you with this, it’s a quote from my dad. And I’ll give you a quote from my mom because I love them both very much. My dad will always say that we’re always looking for shortcuts. The only real shortcut is to start now. And so all you got to do is no matter where we’re going through and matter what you’re doing when you’re on the road is just start. It might not be easy to connect with someone on the airport that first time. Start. It might not be the best Instagram story of you filming yourself while you’re in the airport. Start. Okay. And then my other piece that I love to share with people because this piece of advice has helped me like stay calm, even when I’m on the road, is to always remember this comes from my mom to live in the moment and enjoy the journey. Think about how blessed we are to get on an airplane and travel. Think about how amazing is that we have a job that we get to go pursue our dreams right? Think about how incredible it is that you may be getting off airplane, you may find the love of your life, right? Think about how incredible that is, or who you might meet on a plane. I have a friend he met John Legend on a plane, I have another friend who met his favorite musician, I have another friend. I mean, the stories go on and on and on, right? And really what it comes down to is, are you doing what you love? Are you making an impact, and I’ve been able to be profitable off of that, that thing. And if you can do that, you’re gonna be crushing it as an elite Road Warrior.

Bryan Paul Buckley 34:28
Well, I really appreciate the quotes from your parents. That’s awesome. My dad’s quote was “just because I feed you, doesn’t mean I like you.” So maybe I need to get a little bit higher quotes for my dad. I’m kidding. He’s a quote machine as well. So I really do appreciate that great way to sum everything up. How do we find out more about you? Obviously, we’ll put links in the show notes but just in general, to follow you learn more from you.

Jake Kelfer 34:54
I’m on all social media, LinkedIn, obviously, I’m on LinkedIn. You guys connect to me. They’re just my name. I’m on Instagram @JakeKelfer, that’s probably the platform that I’m on most related to social websites. JakeKelfer.com. And for all your listeners if you guys enjoyed hearing me talk a little bit about elevate your network, we’ll hook you up with the free copy. All you got to do is just pay a small shipping fee, but we’ll take care of all you guys. We’ll get you guys free copies and that link is in my Instagram bio or on my website,

Bryan Paul Buckley 35:22
perfect. We’ll link you up and I don’t mean well LinkedIn you up but also link as well. Well, Jake, man, I love this conversation. These are one of the rare ones where you just keep going and going and going. I highly, highly recommend the book, elevate your network, personal read on my own. So obviously I want to make sure that I’m recommending things that are of value. And obviously man, there are just a number of good ones. And we only hit on 4 of the 25 there as far as specifics. So there’s a lot of practicality to this there. So Jake, thanks for spending time with us for blessing us with a number of really really good tips and making this better to become and remain an elite road warrior.

Jake Kelfer 35:57
Yeah, thank you for having me.

Bryan Paul Buckley 36:13
I’d like to thank Jake Kelfer man, for his energy for his ideas, his challenges, and his insights to help us become and remain elite road warriors. You can find the transcript and everything referenced in this interview in the show notes at eliteroadwarrior.com/084 along with a free resource 10 business travel hacks guide in the show notes. Learn the years and years of hacks that I’ve learned that you can learn in mere moments. And guess what? It’s absolutely free. As always, wherever you are, do something, anything, just not nothing to master the business travel life. leverage what you learn today from Jake Kelfer to become an elite Road Warrior. You got this!

Bryan Paul Buckley 37:07
Love that guy’s energy!

Written by Bryan Buckley · Categorized: CONNECT, Creatively, Embrace Better, Intentionally, Thoughtfully · Tagged: ERW Podcast, podcast

Are You Implementing This One Road Superpower On Every Business Trip?

When I started out on the road many many years ago, I had seemingly unlimited energy and in fact, was nicknamed the Energizer Bunny because I just kept going and going and going.

Energy was my superpower and I found people around me on the road were attracted to it, motivated by it, and depended on it. Energy was the most common word used to describe me. And between us girls, I loved it and thrived on it.

What I didn’t realize is energy is a limited resource and will eventually run out. I knew it was a limited resource in the world at large, but not with me personally. I didn’t believe this universal truth until it finally caught up with yours truly.

If you’ve not heard my full story, you can find it way back in episode #2 of the Elite Road Warrior podcast, read it on the About Page on the website, or the chapter in the Elite Road Warrior book called, My Story.

But the highlights or more aptly put, the lowlights were the sad reality I treated my high-performance car (aka my body) as a 1980 beat-up work Toyota Camry putting in cheap fuel, giving little to no maintenance, quick and inexpensive repairs just to get me back on the road.  My RPMs were in red and my gas tank was on fumes, always. I claimed it was only a season, but it was turning out to be my only season.

Now, the irony is the outside of my car looked immaculate. Always spotless and waxed with the engine revving to impress others. The inside even looked pristine.

Just don’t open that hood and see that neglected Energy Engine.

I would steal night hours to extend my day hours and no one would argue with me due to one inarguable word: RESULTS. I would brag about what little sleep I “supposedly needed” and just pointed to my results. I ate whatever I wanted, whenever I wanted and as much as I wanted.

Again, who would argue due to my unlimited energy and my impressive results? But then it happened. I went around the proverbial curve marked 30 and I was doing my usual 70 and hit the wall and didn’t recover this time. I didn’t bounce off the wall like I normally did. I went through the wall then just sputtered out with a ton of damage.

The engine shut down and eventually, every part of me did as well. The Energizer Bunny was officially off the road.

I had burned out so hard it affected every part of my life and bad. I needed months and months to recover and it was brutal and hard on everyone, especially my family. I was forced to shut down due to business travel burnout in the worst way.

And here’s the Lesson Learned: The Energizer Bunny uses rechargeable batteries which is my new M.O. (means of operation) and has made all the difference on the road.

Let me ask you a question I ask road warriors all of the time. What is more important on the road: Time or Energy?

Many answer time but it’s actually not accurate. Why? If you had time but no energy, how much do you actually get done? Slim to none. Think about the evening time on the road when you’re with your Laptop Lover over dinner, then you take her up for a nightcap. You have the time but how’s your energy? And how much do you actually get done or should I ask what is the quality and the results from your energy-less time? When you finally make it home from a business trip absolutely exhausted and you have the entire weekend to do whatever with your time, how much do you get done with little to no energy? Exactly.

But what if you have energy and limited time, how much can you get done? A surprising amount. Why? You had the energy. Energy is everything on the road. Energy allows you to perform at an elite level on the road every single time. To do your best work and feel proud of what you’ve accomplished.

But where you draw your energy from is all the difference in long-term success on the road or burning out like I did.

Elite Road Warrior Group runs on the premise of Three Focus Areas:

  1.  Work
  2. Health
  3. Home Life

Most business travelers too often sacrifice their health and/or their home life for the sake of work. They burn through all their energy on the road with the grind of business travel then cheat their health and their home life. I see it ALL the time.
An occasional weekend becomes every weekend, every month, and every quarter then year.

But it doesn’t have to be this way.

We also live our life on the road with our habits or what I call our Road Routine. This is “our unique way of traveling” that becomes hard-wired in us. Want some proof?

Think back to the last time you traveled with someone else for work. From what they bring with them to how they eat and drink, what they listen to, how and when they work, and on and on and on.

Traveling with someone else for work often exhausts me because I realize just how different my Road Routine is than other people’s and often I find myself dumbing down my Road Routine to accommodate the other person.

The two critical factors combined are what create the potential for your road superpower: your energy and your habits.

Did you catch the word “potential?” I want to help you combine both your energy and your habits.

A habit is:  a behavior that is repeated enough times to become automatic, and wow do we have those on the road where we’re just on autopilot. (All pun-intended with the autopilot reference)

But have you ever thought if your habits are bringing you the results you ultimately want on the road? I’ve learned from decades of traveling the one game-changer that affects absolutely everything I do on the road is my energy.

It’s so important to me that I was willingly and unknowingly stealing energy from my own body to fabricate it so I could succeed on the road.

Once I crashed and re-evaluated everything about my life, I had to learn the routines that would not only bring back my energy but would be sustainable energy for the long haul. Did you catch that? Sustainable energy and from the right sources.
They became a framework that I literally needed to learn how to take them on the road and have now become known as Energy Habits.

Why? Because if my energy level is the most important resource for me on the road, I need to find a way to engrain energy so deeply into my Road Routine, they’re done automatically with the sole purpose of providing me sustainable energy to allow me to get the results on what I want and need on a consistent basis.

There was a lot there on that last sentence so if you zoned out, here me out on this key concept:

If my energy level is the most important resource for me on the road, I need to find a way to engrain my energy so deeply into my Road Routine, they’re done automatically with the sole purpose of providing me sustainable energy to allow me to get the results I want and need on a consistent basis.

Consistent results are what both you and your company want from you as a road warrior.

This leads us into the official Elite Road Warrior definition of an Energy Habit:

Energy Habit – a sustainable, repeated behavior that brings energy designed to produce desired results

That’s what I want on every single business trip – a sustainable, repeated behavior that brings energy designed to produce desired results.

Next, I needed to figure out what the energy habits were that I want and need to repeat within the three focus areas of Elite Road Warrior: work/health/home life that I will bring with me on the road and I want to produce results.

This led to the six energy habits framework.

Three energy habits are physical and three energy habits are mental. Let me touch on them briefly:

Three Physical Energy Habits:

  1. Move
  2. Fuel
  3. Rest

Three Mental Energy Habits:

  1. Perform
  2. Develop
  3. Connect

If you follow Elite Road Warrior, you’ve heard this framework. But did you understand the psychology behind habits that produce energy?

This is your superpower on the road.

All six energy habits allow me to produce in the three areas that matter to me: my work, but also my health and my home life. Notice, it’s intentional to have these three focus areas weaved into my Road Routine.

Why You Must Implement Energy Habits on the Road

1. Your energy is not a guaranteed resource and must be recharged – I learned this the hard way so learn from me and recharge your energy on the road.

2. Your energy must be channeled into more than just your work – don’t be “that guy” or “that girl” that loses their health and home life for their career.

3. Your best way to create long-term results is leveraging the Six Energy Habits Framework – Elite Road Warrior has done the work for you so all you need to do is work the system.

To this point we’ve learned the following:

  • Energy is more important than time
  • The definition of an energy habit
  • Why you must implement energy habits on the road

Let’s revisit our definition of an Energy Habit – a sustainable, repeated behavior that brings energy designed to produce desired results.

So let’s lean on an expert to help us develop our road habits. James Clear wrote one of my favorite books of all of last year called Atomic Habits. The 2nd half of this article is credited to his work with my job of translating it to the road. If you’ve not read or listened to his book, your first action item is getting it immediately. A game-changer book for any road warrior.

I love how James Clear frames a habit.

“Each habit is like a suggestion: ‘this is who I am.’ Every action you take is a vote for the type of person you wish to become. No single instance will transform your beliefs but as the notes build up, so does the evidence of your new identity.”

The most practical way to change who you are is to change what you do.

Two-Step Process:

1. Decide the type of person you want to be
2. Prove it to yourself with small wins

For example, I want to be an elite road warrior, therefore I need to do behaviors of an elite road warrior.

And this is where the Six Energy Habits Framework comes into the picture. I want sustainable, repeated behaviors that bring energy designed to produce desired results in each of the six energy habits.

I want to be a road warrior who:

  • Moves consistently
  • Fuels properly
  • Rests strategically
  • Performs optimally
  • Develops personally and professionally
  • Connects thoughtfully and creatively

So, according to Atomic Habits, each small decision, or habit, is a vote towards being an elite road warrior or a vote towards being an existing road warrior. If you’re having trouble changing your habits, the problem isn’t you. The problem is your system and this is why we have Energy Habits and the Six Energy Habits Framework to leverage this system to become the best version of you.

James Clear says this:

“All BIG things come from small beginnings. The seed of every habit is a single, tiny decision. But as that decision is repeated a habit sprouts and grows stronger. Roots entrench themselves and branches grow. The task of breaking a bad habit is like uprooting a powerful oak within us. And the task of building a good habit is like cultivating a delicate flower one day at a time.”

Time magnifies the margin between success and failure. It will multiply whatever you feed it. Good habits make time your ally. Bad habits make time your enemy. And too many a road warrior has some powerful oak size bad habits that don’t serve us or who we are and ultimately who we want to be.

For the seasoned road warrior, they can feel the Travel 20 or in my case the Entitled 40 (aka the weight we’ve gained from the road). We feel the exhaustion of the road or the slow decay of our relationships with those back home we love.

So, this is a perfect time to re-evaluate if our habits are serving us.

Let’s take a moment to get basic and granular in how a habit is even developed.

The process of building a habit can be divided into four simple steps:

  1. Cue. A piece of information that suggests there’s a reward to be found, like the smell of a cookie or a dark room waiting to light up.
  2. Craving. The motivation to change something to get the reward, like tasting the delicious cookie or being able to see.
  3. Response. Whatever thought or action you need to take to get to the reward.
  4. Reward. The satisfying feeling you get from the change, along with the lesson whether to do it again or not

The cue is about noticing the reward.
The craving is about wanting the reward.
The response is about obtaining the reward.

So the money question is how do you make an Energy Habit sustainable? James Clear gives Four Laws of Behavior Change to help us implement Energy Habits on the road:

I made it into an acronym: OAES

1. Make it Obvious

“What gets our attention gets attention” (my own quote)
On the road, we need these cues or triggers that catch our attention and remind us to do the desired behavior that brings us energy.

For example, I carry with me absolutely everywhere on the road the Elite Road Warrior water bottle. Why? It’s always out in front of me and an obvious cue to continually hydrate.

My room key cues me to do a routine I called H.OM.E. away from Home. You can learn this cue and routine in episode 015. What can you make obvious on the road that enforces the energy habits?

2. Make it Attractive

The more attractive an opportunity is, the more likely it is to become habit-forming.
I rarely do the things I hate but if I can somehow make it attractive to me, the likelihood of doing it dramatically increases for me.

For example, I love writing in the Elite Road Warrior branded journal. The rich soft, artisan leather calls my name. The Not Forgotten Journal is the same way. And both products are available in the Elite Road Warrior Store.

I love listening to a podcast or audiobook when I workout or go for a walk and have episodes already in the cue. This makes the workout or walk more attractive to me.

What can you make attractive on the road that enforces the energy habits?

3. Make it Easy

Out of the four, this to me was the most important – I needed the habit to be easy to do especially on the road.

James Clear talks a lot about Environment Design. He’s a big advocate that “You don’t have to be the victim of your environment. You can be the architect of it.”

When deciding to practice a new habit, it is best to choose a place that is already in the path of your daily routine. Habits are easy to build when they fit into the flow of your life. It’s the concept of “If This, Then That” in my current environment.

Too often, we try to start habits in high-friction environments. The greater the friction, the less likely the habit. Reduce the friction associated with bad behaviors. When friction is high, habits are difficult.

Sometimes success is less about making good habits easy and more about making bad habits hard. For example, it’s starting very small when integrating an energy habit. Workout for just five minutes each day or read for just five minutes each day on the road.

What can you make easy on the road that enforces the energy habits?

4. Make it Satisfying

With our bad habits, the immediate outcome usually feels good, but the ultimate outcome feels bad. With good habits, it is the reverse: the immediate outcome is unenjoyable but the ultimate outcome feels good.

The cost of your good habits are in the present. The cost of your bad habits are in the future. When the moment of decision arrives, instant gratification usually wins.

As a general rule, the more immediate pleasure you get from an action, the more strongly you should question whether it aligns with your long-term goals.

Just as we are more likely to repeat an experience when the ending is satisfying, we are also more likely to avoid an experience when the ending is painful. Pain is an effective teacher.

Cardinal Rule of Behavior Change – What is immediately rewarded is repeated. What is immediately punished is avoided. For example, when I do the Flat Kiddos in my environment and send those creative pictures to my kids, they’re thrilled knowing dad was thinking of them and that is very satisfying to me.

What can you make satisfying on the road that enforces the energy habits?

Here’s a quick summary of Atomic Habits and how to create a lasting habit:

Sometimes a habit will be hard to remember and you’ll need to make it obvious. Other times you won’t feel like starting and you’ll need to make it attractive. In many cases, you may find that a habit will be too difficult and you’ll need to make it easy.
And sometimes, you won’t feel like sticking with it and you’ll need to make it satisfying.

Obvious…………………. Invisible
Attractive……………….. Unattractive
Easy…………………….. Hard
Satisfying………………. Unsatisfying

An energy habit is the one road superpower you need on every single business trip.

Your Action Items…

1. Pick up the Atomic Habits book or audiobook by James Clear

2. Go to the Elite Road Warrior Store and pick up some items that will make your Energy Habits more obvious/attractive/easy/satisfying

3. Maybe it’s revisiting the Elite Road Warrior book or audiobook as well

4. Or reading the weekly article from Elite Road Warrior on LinkedIn or the Elite Road Warrior site

Take action on this road superpower today.

You Got This!

 

Written by Bryan Buckley · Categorized: Embrace Better, Energy, ERW Podcast, Podcast · Tagged: ERW Podcast, podcast

The Biggest Misconception to Master the Business Travel Life

When I first started as a business traveler a long, long time ago, I took my Type A, driven personality to a whole new level. It was unleashed on the “open road” if you know what I mean.

I dove into this new opportunity that now included traveling the country and eventually certain parts of the world.

And I loved it.

I already went 100 miles an hour at home and now I was given the freedom to do the very same things on my own on the road.

Brilliant!

And I met hundreds and hundreds of business travelers who validated my theory.

Drive
Drive
Drive

Personal Drive which was inner
Road Drive which was outer

And I poured myself into my work. Nobody could and would outwork yours truly on the road. And if I found out you did, I would sleep less and try to wear you down.

I even coined a phrase I use often called the Travel Triangle:

  • Airport
  • Board Room
  • Hotel Room

Wash – Rinse – Repeat.

And between us girls, I got good and I mean really good at the Travel Triangle.

I prided myself on not being outworked and killing it on the road.

But here is the biggest misconception I thought to master the business travel life.

Are you ready for it? It’s all about WORK.

Um, excuse me. Aren’t you there to work? After all, it is called BUSINESS Travel. Touche.

But not ONLY work.  Now, don’t get me wrong. This is not a free pass to slack off.

The Biggest Misconception to Master the Business Travel Life is it’s only about Work.

I believed this lie for far too long. I went from a not-so-suite job to c-suite.

I had the cheap rental cars and lousy hotel rooms and fast food meals to living large and driving cool cars right up to my plush hotel, eating the best of the king’s food and drinking the best of the king’s wine.

But in the end, believing this misconception, business travel is only about work, almost took two very important parts of my life.

What are they? Let me tell you how I found out first of all.

As I mentioned earlier, I’ve always gone 100 miles an hour in my life and it manifested itself with business travel.

I could get more done in a day than the average guy.

  • More trips.
  • More presentations.
  • More meetings.
  • More emails.
  • More calls.

I was up late and up early.

This high-performance car showed no signs of any deterioration. At least on the outside.

Nothing but praises and raises were given to this high performer. But then when I turned 40, things internally were going wrong.

I was getting very strange symptoms:

  • Heart racing
  • Flush face
  • Eyes glazed over
  • Migraines
  • Diarrhea
  • Inability to absorb content
  • Sleeping and never feeling any effects of the rest

I went to the doctor and they told me the good news / the bad news

And you know what I did after that? Absolutely nothing. I went harder. And harder. For years.

Until age 45, my body shut down and shut down hard. A complete and utter engine blowout.

It was like I took a turn marked 30 and I slowed down from 100 to 70, hit the wall and the race was over.

But wait, there’s more.

At the same time, I was always busy on the road so therefore had little to no time to check-in with friends and family back home. My friends understood or simply moved on.

The family?

They were feeling Dad’s distance both physically and emotionally.

To be blunt… It was not good.

My wife and I were fighting over stupid things when I left, and we were stressed while I was gone. It was brutal and hard enough leaving, and then to end with a massive fight just sucked.

Then the kiddos tension…

Kids cried when I left and were upset about what I missed while I was gone. I checked in at all the wrong times and was always distracted.

I was killing it on the road and getting killed at home. I was important on the road but invisible at home.

To be honest, I was a hot mess when I got home due to the exhaustion, and then just so disconnected with home trying to make up for lost time but feeling paralyzed on how to make this mess I created any better.

How’s that for a vulnerability bomb?

What resulted was the foundation of the Three Focus Areas of Elite Road Warrior:

  • Work
  • Health
  • Home Life

Remember, the biggest misconception to master the business travel life was in the 1st focus area: WORK.

Is it important? Absolutely. In fact, it’s Energy Habit #4: PERFORM. It’s why we’re ON the road. But it’s not everything.

If you lose your health, how much harder is work, or how much does work matter?

If you struggle or lose your family, how much is work affected?

When I lost my health, everything in my life was on hold. I couldn’t work. My life revolved around my next medical test. Forced rest. Supplements.

When I had stress back at the Buckley ranch, my mind was elsewhere on the road. I felt the tension and handled it in unhealthy ways.

Not good, road warriors.

The stark reality is the three focus areas are all inter-related.

Eventually, I learned that when I had my health in an optimal place and my relationships back home with those I loved were strong, my work on the road actually improved.

This is key.

  • I had more energy.
  • I had less stress.
  • I had more clarity.
  • I felt more supported and connected.

Let’s be brutally honest…
The inbox will always receive emails.
There will always be calls to return.
There will always be another proposal to write, presentation to give, deal to close.

But nobody can take care of your health except you.

Will the business world end if you took 20-30 minutes to go for a walk or run or workout in the hotel fitness center or hotel room?

Nope.

Hence energy habit one: MOVE.

I chose to take the challenge every single morning on the road.

Prioritize the 2nd Focus Area of HEALTH.

 

And those you love back home: What if you took just a couple of minutes to stop being the check-in guy or girl and became a connect-in guy or girl who learned to leverage the road to grow that relationship in ways you wouldn’t at home through energy habit six: CONNECT – connect intentionally, thoughtfully, and creatively.

It’s how I created the Not Forgotten Journal you’re now hearing about.

It why I created the Flat Kiddos.

It’s why I send postcards to my older sons.

It’s why I pre-write and pre-record intentional, thoughtful words to those I love back home so they know they’re still a priority to me while I’m not physically there with them.

Here’s the point:

Your business world will change entirely if you stopped believing the biggest misconception to master the business travel life that it only has one focus area: WORK.

Take care of your health because only you can. Take care of your family intentionally, thoughtfully, and creatively to invest into their lives.

Here’s a hard reality:

Remember, your family has a choice of whether to connect or reconnect with you if you’ve been physically and emotionally distant. They don’t have to come back to you so don’t put yourself in that position. Two are involved in this decision.

I’ve had too many conversations that break my heart with especially men of power after a couple of double vodka tonics who admit they’re on their 2nd or 3rd marriage and/or their kids could care less if they’re in their lives or not.

My heart breaks hearing this out of shape, lonely, broken but seemingly highly successful business traveler killing it on the road.

It doesn’t have to be this way, road warriors.

There are three focus areas to becoming and remaining an elite road warrior for a reason:

  • Work
  • Health
  • Home Life

My hope is that this is a wake-up call to see how you’re personally doing in the three focus areas. You may be doing great in one, but what about the other two? Or maybe good on two but what about the other one?

Remember, you can always find another job but you can’t always get your health back or get your family back.

My hope and prayer is that you do whatever it takes to become and remain an elite road warrior and it starts by no longer believing the biggest misconception in business travel and excelling in all three focus areas of Work / Health / Home Life.

So, wherever you are on the road, do something, anything, just not nothing to master the business travel life.

You Got This!

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082 – The Best Version of Yourself (On the Road) with Nick Davies

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Bryan Paul Buckley 0:00 Episode 82 of the Elite Road Warrior Podcast. Welcome to the Elite Road Warrior podcast where we believe you can leverage the road to transform your work, health, and home life while on business travel to ultimately master the business travel life. If you’re a road warrior, and a great chance you’re on the road right now then this podcast is for you.

 

Bryan Paul Buckley 0:31 Welcome to the Elite Road Warrior Podcast. I’m your host Brian Paul Buckley, fellow Road Warrior husband, one father of five. And then I really enjoy meeting certain people that I click with then I’m like man, they would make a great interview on the Elite Road Warrior Podcast and I’ve got one of those for you today. And as always, I would love for you to join my road trip in my master evil plans becoming and remaining an elite Road Warrior. But when I met our guest, as I mentioned, I just clicked with his energy, his passion, his desire to improve his life and the life of others. So I’m really honored to interview him today. And I think you’re really gonna enjoy the conversation. He is a quote like one-liner bomb King. So there were just so many that I was just like, oh, say that again. Say that again. And we’ll make sure those are in the show notes as well.

 

Bryan Paul Buckley 1:19 So, let’s meet our guest today. Nick Davies is a business and career coach with 20 years of background in financial services. He’s originally from London, England. And Nick has also worked in the Philippines, Florida, New York, and now calls Charlotte, North Carolina, his home and you’re gonna love his North Carolinian, British accent. Well, over the past four years, Nick has shifted big time is focusing on creating his purpose and now allows people in businesses through coaching. He’s trained through Tony Robbins coaching which is absolutely amazing and is also a certified health coach. And in just a moment, we’re gonna be working through these following questions with Nick. How is your perspective enhanced by traveling as a business traveler, why is it so important to understand our own behaviors? And why we do the things that we do when we’re on the road? How much of a difference do our habits and our road routines, these patterns these road life road routines make on the road? How can we create more focus while we’re traveling on business? How do we leverage the power of connecting with other people as a business traveler? And we went deep on that question, and as a coach, what difference does he see with those who prioritize personal development and maybe those that don’t, and there’s always so much more. It’s go time!

 

Bryan Paul Buckley 3:02 Well, I’m live right now with the Nick Davies. How are you and where are you, man?

 

Nick Davies 3:08 I am outstanding, middle of the week ready to go cranking it out. Coming to you, Charlotte, North Carolina, a beautiful Sunday morning

 

Bryan Paul Buckley 3:17 And I can tell right now for those listeners who are on the go that your North Carolinian accent is just a little bit behind right now with theirs so how long you been there and man Why aren’t you in North Carolina

 

Nick Davies 3:31 Isn’t it authentic? Come on. Come on.

 

Bryan Paul Buckley 3:35 Come on. We’re gonna start the interview that way.

 

Nick Davies 3:37 I’ve been here for three whole years Come on, can I not belong here?

 

Bryan Paul Buckley 3:40  In a row. Well, I mean, I still pick up that I still think that the Texas accent and the New York accent I mean, those are coming through pretty strong.

 

Nick Davies 3:48 yeah, I mean, it’s all about traveling. I believe in that a lot. And it’s part of why we’re here today of course but yeah, I’m originally from London, England and lived in the states for seven years. North Carolina is absolutely where I call home now. My wife and my daughter and this is where we’re putting down some roots and it’s a beautiful place beautiful state. And I love it.

 

Bryan Paul Buckley 4:06 And a heck of a swim to get back to the Motherland, isn’t it? A good thing since you’re in shape? Well, hey, you know, I joked around I used to say it worked for an Australian based companies you could tell me my Chicago Australian accent you know, and I had to hit that the Chicago part hard otherwise that Aussie would come out and you know, you know, as those Aussies are, so anyway, so you’re a business and career coach how what’s that look like on a daily basis?

 

Nick Davies 4:35 That looks like me living my best life. Really, Brian. I know that sounds corny and kind of cliche to say but you know that this is why I do this. It’s, it’s a second career for me and it’s a really purposeful and intentional about what do I want to have in my life and that looks like for me, set my day up in the morning making sure that I start my day, but the things that into my mind I need to be doing, put the things into my body that I need to be having to be able to come and crank it to the highest level peak performance sharp for my clients in the best possible way, shot for people that I’m working with working around. So colleagues of mine people that I’m looking to do business with, so prospects to serving people at the highest level and doing things like this and, and having conversations with people like you that really fill me up, and I think it’s pretty important. So that’s why it looks like for me, it’s a balance of all of those things.

 

Bryan Paul Buckley 5:23 Well, and it’s obvious you do well what you do, because of our first five minutes of the phone call, just kind of get to know each other a little bit. We’re like, man, we’re on literally the same page, same paragraph, same sentence, and, and that’s great. And so we’re gonna pack quite a bit of that within this interview. So, Nick, how is your perspective enhanced by traveling? I mean, obviously, you’ve been a world traveler, and you know, being a coach, but then also traveling yourself. What does that mean to have your perspective enhanced on the road?

 

Nick Davies 5:53 If I boil it down, Bryan, I think the biggest indicator of change is environment. And what’s the most impactful way that you can change your environment is to change your physical environment. And there’s a lot of things that we can do to, to move around the environment that we’re in. But the quickest way, impactful way of doing that is just, is just change it and change it from a different, different location, different state, but more importantly, different country, different people around you. And you’re forced to be in that experience. Now, if you want to go and learn a language you want to learn Italian, what do you do? What’s the best way? To go to Italy – you learn that language, submerge yourself. I think that’s true across everything. So I think it’s so important to get those different perspectives, those different areas and just have a view of what other people do. It’s so easy to be able to just to see how this is the way that life is, the way things are. If you’re always been in the same place, nothing wrong with that, by the way, but the easiest way to change your perspective and to grow and see different things is to just be in an environment that you’re not used to and you can’t help us see things.

 

Bryan Paul Buckley 6:56 So let’s drill down there for just a second because obviously by the road, we are forced to that unless you are it consultants, but even then, I mean, I’ve traveled consultants, I deal with consultants and they may be in one spot for three months. So that’s the same for three months. But eventually, they’re moving to another city. And so they’re always meeting new people, people. So we actually had the ability of enhancing that perspective, if we allow it to correct. So how do we allow that? I mean, what, what does that mean? So all of a sudden, I’m not doing it, but now I want to do that. What does that look like?

 

Nick Davies 7:26 Yeah, yeah, change is automatic growth is not. It’s a choice.

 

Bryan Paul Buckley 7:31 Say that again, say that again

 

Nick Davies 7:33 Change is automatic, growth is not. That intention is the difference, that choice because you can go get dragged kicking and screaming to something that changes in your life. You have to want to take that opportunity and make that something that by to be more of that, you know, it’s I think that that’s the biggest thing is making that decision and say, Okay, what, what’s new in my environment, and what can I take from this. And get curious, have some fun! What can I take from here? What’s different here? Wow, what can I learn?

 

Bryan Paul Buckley 8:05 That’s great awareness.

 

Nick Davies 8:07  Yeah. Awareness. I mean that that word will come back to so often that and intention is so true, but just bringing out every part, I think it’s so important.

 

Bryan Paul Buckley 8:14 Well, I think intention kind of leads into that next question. So why is it so important to understand our own behavior and why we do the things that we do in business travel? I know that’s a big area in your practice with people as far as to understand the behavior and the reasons they do what they do, but how in the context of business travel how does that relate?

 

Nick Davies 8:33 Yeah, it relates massively because we do things based on patterns. And so if your role your business, your job, evolved into business travel, maybe there was like one bit of travel you did every year then that was then it started to be two a year, three a year and it was every month and it was every week. You probably didn’t take the time just start and go, Okay, how do I want to do this thing? How do I want to lay this out to be most successful, delivering for my clients, so different from me, and having the best possible experience probably didn’t happen. And so there’s a great time to just hit the reset button if you like and say, Okay, well, where I am on where am I now? What do I, what do I like about what am I doing in the patterns that I’ve, I’ve ingrained because we all build these patterns. It’s part of who we are. And it’s really important, really powerful. Because if we didn’t build patterns, make things automatic. I’m gonna have to relearn everything all the time. And but we need to be clear about what the patterns are, which patterns do we want to build? And so I think it’s a great, always a great time, especially now, maybe that travel wasn’t quite as much. And we’re still moving around. We’re still doing travel in different ways. But just to think about like, what do I want to get out? What type of person do I want to be here? How can I take this free this thing to the next level? What is it about my patterns that I’m doing? What do I like when I’m just doing inventory? And just be honest with yourself.

 

Bryan Paul Buckley 9:56 And it’s hard to your points when you’re just going, going if all of a sudden you go from, you know that one tradeshow a year to traveling a few times a year. It’s all of a sudden, you’re the busy traveler or guy just interviewed recently, Justin Pugh in Episode 78, where he went from a sedentary lifestyle, eight to five every single day to all of a sudden he’s traveling every single week for six months. You know, we talk about hitting the gas pedal there, but having that opportunity to be able to go, is this what I want in my life? Is this what I’m getting out of business travel of what I hoped it would be. And obviously, that’s where somebody like you as a business coach can kind of work and pull those types of things out or maybe reflect a little bit more on those questions. Is that correct?

 

Nick Davies 10:38 Absolutely. Something I always start with, and I always go back to is a real simple question of what do you want? Because I’m sure you’ve experienced this as well that generally speaking, when you ask people what they want, they will just tell you what they don’t want. And it’s a simple question, but it’s not one we often ask ourselves that are really deep. But I think that that’s what we’ve always got to point back to, is if you get if you find yourself getting stuck in the monotony of something is, and just getting frustrated with something to pull it back and say, hang on, let me distance myself a little bit. Let me create a little bit of space. So I can ask the deep questions, again, the real questions, why am I doing this? What do I really want? What does this serve me? How does it serve me? Who am I trying to serve?

 

Bryan Paul Buckley 11:23 So Nick, to go back to what you just said, where people answer with what they don’t want. Do you find at least in your coaching, that sometimes finding what you don’t want ultimately leads somebody to finding out what they do want? I mean, by like, some process of elimination, where it kind of uncovers like, Oh, I have an aha moment by doing the antithesis of answering that question.

 

Nick Davies 11:42 Yeah, no, absolutely. And there’s definitely value in saying what you don’t want. And, and, and for sure, and I’m not making people wrong for that. It’s a better process. And so if you’re going from your answer, the question of what you want is what you don’t want, you can just show yourself where you are in that process. Because you know, here’s the thing back To the patterns, if you’re not asking yourself questions, those types of questions on a regular basis, it’s not likely that you’re gonna have good answers. And that’s not that’s good. That’s not to say you can’t, it’s just you haven’t until you haven’t built that muscle.

 

Bryan Paul Buckley 12:12 That’s great. It’s not saying that you can’t, but that you just haven’t. That’s awesome. That’s a great phrase on that, and especially to someone who may be saying, Well, I don’t want to travel as much or I don’t want to be overweight, or I don’t want to be so disconnected with my family. Obviously, the opposite of that ultimately becomes what you want which kind of leads into this next question of how much of a difference does your road habits in your road routines make on the road? Like you’re talking about getting into the patterns into the grooves of that so how much of a difference does that really make?

 

Nick Davies 12:43 All the difference. All the difference. I was working with a client this morning. So he has a couple of different companies but he has a job as well. And, and the difference between one week to the next was absolutely monumental. About how he felt about it.

 

Bryan Paul Buckley 13:00 Interesting how so?

 

Nick Davies 13:01 And he so he the distinction he made was that he shared with me that I’m, I tend to be a night person. Think about that. But that’s just a belief he shared. I tend to be a night person. And you know, what is a belief? Belief is nothing but something that we’re really certain about. And because he’s believed by himself was that I tend to be a night person. His behavior supports that belief. And that led to him getting up later and later, staying up later and later, not being where he needs to be delivering. And so the commitment he made based on that distinction, now awareness was I’m going to start to get up at this time, no matter what. And the result of that was that he got exponentially more done in the week, but forget the result. He felt fantastic. When you feel great, you do great things. And I think that’s so important, especially going out on the road because the environments continuously changing around you. So you want to create as much structure as you can to enable yourself To be as successful, even with the flexibility of that how that environment might change. So you can control.

 

Bryan Paul Buckley 14:09 And that’s good, Nick. So going back to the question of what do I really want? By getting that question answered can help us to potentially from what I’m hearing from you, yep, maybe redesign our habits or our road routines, or our patterns to be able to fit exactly what we ultimately want to become. Can you unpack that a little bit more?

 

Nick Davies 14:30 Absolutely. So if you’re, and part of my career, and the traveling that I did, was joyful for me because it wasn’t so much it was like, Okay, I get an opportunity to go to a different country. Wow, I get to visit the people that I talk to on a regular basis. I get to see different cultures a little bit of that, what’s gonna pay for it, this is gonna be great. And so it was more like an adventure for me. So my outcome, my goal, what I want was just to enjoy the experience. Okay, I’m going to take away can I’m going to I’m gonna, probably not, I’m going to get away from my regular patterns and just enjoy it.

 

Bryan Paul Buckley 15:06  because you because you’re the attitude and the mindset of adventure.

 

Nick Davies 15:09 Yes, yes, exactly. Whereas, whereas if my goal was my outcome was what I want was that this is an integral part of me being successful in my business or my career. And I’ve got to be much more precise about the way that I do that. I can’t just be adventurous by doing it, I’ve got to create the parameters of something I’m doing on a regular basis. So my behavior is going to be much more different than on the venture side, I’m going to, I’m going to stay out and have that late dinner, maybe I would have a couple of drinks. Now maybe I’m going to miss a workout in the morning. So I’m there for the adventure takeaway comes. But if my overall goal is to maximize myself, from my business for the company I’m working for now I want to make sure I’m getting very precise about that. I need to know how I can show up in my best. I’m going to be doing the big meeting, and I’m going and I’m going to be doing the social part of it but a time I’m gonna be straight back to my room so I can prep, I can sleep. So I can go work out and make sure that I’m in the right possible for the best possible frame for the next day so that that part is so important.

 

Bryan Paul Buckley 16:10 So this is actually really good because I think you’re, you’re leveraging in you know, the desire for adventure, but also not at the cost of what is the ultimate goal of the business trip. So for example, somebody could choose to have an adventure as part of the trip or adventure is to say, Hey, I’m going to try you know, this food in New Orleans or I’m going to try whatever or I’m going to visit, you know, this sightseeing place right in here, which is adventurous, but not at the ultimate cost of whatever my overall goal is, of the business trip. So it kind of leads into one question to ask you is, well, how do you create focus while traveling for business? Because if obviously, you’ve got a lot of things that are going on, sometimes focus becomes the hardest area because of all these other variables. You know, travel friction, if you will, that’s kind of biting you on a given business trip. How does focus come into play?

 

Nick Davies 16:59 There’s a Really cool duality here right it’s the one that jumps right out for me Brian is precision, the more precise you can be around the things that you know that serve you the best. For instance, I need to soon as I get off the plane get to my hotel, the first thing I do is always have a workout. For instance, I always need to make sure that I get up by a certain time I set my clock straightaway and have the workout every morning whatever that is, you getting really precise on it, because the more precision you can have on those but the scaffolding if you like, the template of what your traveling looks like, the more freedom that you can actually have in expressing your artistry of maximizing your not only the adventure of it but also the business side of it as well. So there’s that duality that the irony of, Okay, one side I need to get really structured and precise. That’s going to actually allow me to have more fun and create more and be more business-wise and fun wise. So that find that balance for what you need. Play around with it, and be curious about it, what works for me? and be honest, because we all really know, we’re being honest. We already know what those things are for us.

 

Bryan Paul Buckley 18:10 Well, I love man, there’s just so much there and precision around the areas that produce your best results. I mean, I think that’s just what’s really, really powerful. And to your point to Nick, I think sometimes we just we’re not aware, we’re not thinking about it, we’re not intentional, we just go out and do our road life. We just do the deal. And we don’t always realize how it’s affecting us how it’s benefiting us, but also how it affects other people. And one area that I really resonated with you and we had our conversation was really kind of on that power of connecting with other people and the energy of this there and how are we presenting our best self and what are they receiving out of that? So how, how do you leverage the power of connection as a business traveler with meeting new people or coming in for a window of time and then leaving so can you drill down on that a little?

 

Nick Davies 19:01 Yeah, I mean, first of all, wow, what a gift it is to be a business traveler. What a gift. You get to go to all of these different places you get to decide to bring your best self to it to build relationships change lives in the moment. How cool is it when someone comes in sweeps into your business sweeps into your life, they come with this massive energy. And they come with a perspective, which is it, which is what we don’t see so often something that just takes things to the next level, you get to go in and be that person, impact people and then go to the next one and do the same thing. Again. I want to underscore that point. Because it’s so important that we have to think of it as a gift. It’s a great thing of what we’re doing right now. Right? That’s the start point. And that’s the mindset. And then it’s thinking about all those things as relationships because ultimately business is relationships, business is relationships, and so that thinking it from that point, okay, it’s a gift. And everything here is about relationships. How do you take all of the patterns that you see there’s that word again, the patterns that you. See from all of the people that you’re privileged to work with and interact with, and bring those to the next person? The best parts of that, that conversation, the best parts of that relationship, put it into that next relationship, and so on and so forth and kind of continue to play that around and just be there for people, especially in the environment right now. Like, if you’re in a car, right now, this thing, if you’re at the airport, getting on it, get on an airplane, if you’re thinking okay, cool. I’ve got that big meeting coming up for me, but just think about the people side of it. But like, how can you in the next interaction you have, give what that person needs, I can just get a deeper connection. And if that’s all you ever focus on just getting that little bit deeper connection. That alone is gonna stand you in fantastic stead been super successful of whatever your chosen field is.

 

Bryan Paul Buckley 20:51 So let’s drill down and I think you’ve kind of hit a nerve here. I think the easiest thing is that we’re just not aware of the impression we’ve left on others. So I think when we do raise that awareness You’re really talking about how can I get a deeper connection? So let’s just ask the obvious question on that, especially even somebody introverted or they just kind of do their deal, and then they just go on to the next their next meeting or next appointment. Why is that deeper connection important? So we’re going to quantify that, like, what’re the results of that? If I have to make the effort to have that deeper connection?

 

Nick Davies 21:23 Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we always want to be coming back to the results for sure. Because you know that otherwise, it’s just a nice conversation, we’ve got to pull those things together. We want to see the results. We always want tangible results for sure. And let’s do it in a way that we enjoy it right? Because ultimately, everything happens under the banner of rapport. And the more that rapport that you can build with someone, the more relationship relational currency you have with someone. So really think about like a bank account that you have with someone, the more that you can pull yourself into that relationship and create more currency, the more opportunity that things are going to pop up. As I was saying, The harder I work the luckier I get. Obviously, the harder that is, it’s I love it. All right, you too, the more that you put into something, the more you’re going to get out. And the thing that we often don’t see, or tend to disregard, is that we want this or expect some sort of instant feedback, instant gratification if I do this for you right now what do I get. And of course, that’s not really the way that the world works, but it’s giving value for value sake, how can I make things better for you? And often, in fact, I’d go too far and say, all the time, that will come back to you. the way it comes back to you, you don’t know. But again, having that acute awareness of knowing that if I pour into this relationship, if I give the most I can to give bringing value to this person, somewhere along the line, it’s gonna come back to me a couple of years down the line, they’re gonna say, hey, look, I can, I’ve got a fantastic favorite introduction with you. And they’re gonna introduce you to where the leverage is that that currency. So I would say it’s everything. And it’s, it’s, we want to make sure we’re always tying it back to the results as you talk about Brian. But make sure that you can see that for yourself. I’m willing to bet that and if you look at your business results over the last six months, think about where that came from. Think about and I’m willing to bet that come from your strongest relationships that you have in your business. I bet you could tie those relationships back the one instruction you got before that, and the one before that as well. And it’s all going to come down to the relationship.

 

Bryan Paul Buckley 23:31 We’ll be back for the remainder of this interview after this short break.

Bryan Paul Buckley 23:43 Overseeing a business travel team is a challenge, especially when you just want consistent results. Is that too much to ask? There is a grind of business travel that has two levels of costs if you consider the first is obviously the business traveler. Secondly is the company When your business travelers only a short flight away from burnout due to the stress of the road, they’re costing you money and results in the entire world. According to the Kingston study, 45% of the 200 frequent business travelers surveyed reported higher stress levels than normal while on work trips, and 31% said they’ve experienced emotional exhaustion, which is one of the major risk factors of burnout, and this is on a weekly basis. Another study showed 80% of those who have experienced mental health problems, aka stress on the road, have never told their employer and you need to know. You may not even realize burnout could cost you up to 200% of their salary. And this doesn’t even factor in the loss of productivity of that person, going from busy to beat down to burnout. These stats are staggering. Yet most companies continue to do business as usual or in this case, business travel as usual, why? Too many companies who have business travelers and especially those that lead the road where teams are just simply unaware of any signs of burnout. And as a result, Elite Road Warrior Group has done the heavy lifting for you. We’ve created a resource called seven early warning signs for companies to avoid business travel burnout. And you can find this absolutely free PDF resource at eliteroadwarrior.com Get your copy of the seven early warning signs for companies to avoid business travel burnout at eliteroadwarrior.com

Bryan Paul Buckley 25:43 There are some guys in Southern California that I’ve known for a decade and I’ve represented different companies mostly on contract work kind of coming in as a brand specialist, corporate trainer, and every time that I come back to them with a different company, they’re automatically thrilled to hear from me. Hey, what’s the update What’s going on? You know, at that point, hey, what do you need, you know, hey, you need to get back in here, y’all for another training into here. And it was super cool. Because really just even a couple of years ago, and one of the guys had mentioned before he got any gun use that as a moment. He’s the head guy. It’s all these sales guys, not 50 sales guys. And he says to them, he says, Hey, Bryan’s here right now because of the power of connection. And he said, I’ve known him for 10 years, and whatever it comes in whatever he’s promoting, or selling or, you know, endorsing, I’m gonna go with because I like and I trust Bryan. But Frank and I have been out a number of times just talking or you know, working to take care of his customers taking them out to eat. And there’s that you to your point, that rapport, that relationship, that deeper connection. Now, obviously, to your point earlier, you don’t always know when that’s going to come back to when, or benefits from the result, but it has over and over and over and over. Sometimes it’s a year later. Sometimes it’s three years later, sometimes it’s six months later depends on the contract that has come out to be true. So, man, that is a really, really good point on there, Nick. So what are some ways that we can improve in the area of connection with people on the road?

Nick Davies 27:07 Yeah, and I just before I answer that, if I may, Bryan, just come back to your point because people tend to dismiss that. They’ll see in other people, oh, why did that guy get that deal? Oh, it’s just because he’s got a good relationship, just because they like each other, meaning that it’s something that they can’t do anything about, which of course, is not the case, right? And so you can actively work on those relationships and two answers that will lead to your question, right? So just be aware of those like, you tend to dismiss it all. But that’s what they’re just that’s just how the relationship that this guy has. That’s just who he is. You get to choose who you want to be.

Bryan Paul Buckley 27:47 That’s good.

Nick Davies 27:48 And so what are the practical applications? How can you do this? Again, back to that what a precision part should be part of your on the road program. Who are the people that I’m going to see on this trip, or this part of this trip that are the most important, and what do I know about them? And what is it? How can I? How can I strengthen the depth of relationship? How can I really listen? It’s going to start from that. If you can go and say I’ve met this guy, there are so many people that I’ve talked to met over the years and clients I see oftentimes from a, from an individual point of view, a business point of view. Well, they have relationships with people they’ve had for 10 years. But those relationships are still surface. And so it’s going to come back to well, listening, and really understanding about people and I think one of the biggest things, why coaching is so powerful is because we’re not playing on the surface. We’re getting to learn stuff about the people, if you’ve got five people in the next three days that you know, they’re going to be impactful to your business. You like to get on with and you respect. Ask some questions. What else is going on in your life? At least I don’t know about you. Learn. Get curious to make some notes put that down part of your precision.

Bryan Paul Buckley 29:03 Oh, what did you say? Take notes. Why?

Nick Davies 29:07 Absolutely. Yeah. Hey, if it’s not written down doesn’t exist. It’s my belief.

Bryan Paul Buckley 29:12 And so then especially when you’re on other cities, you know, and you think you’re gonna remember, you know, it reminds me, Nick of a quote, my dad used to say, hated as a kid. He said, You know, you talk about, he said, If you ask people questions, they’ll talk to you for hours. If you talk about yourself, they’ll listen to you for minutes. And so true, right. And one of the things that a mentor of mine taught me was just the power of using LinkedIn. So I can get on to somebody’s profile, I’m going to visit you know, Jeff Johnson, for example. And I realized, Oh, you know, well, he went to, you know, he went to Ohio State University, and I could teach him like, I’m from the University of Michigan and get the IRA all riled up. I’m saying, or my case, being a Cubs fan, you know, and being Cardinals or whatever, you know, you find that that level of connection on there to your point, get personal, to remember that, you know, they’ve got kids or they’re a big sports fan of this, or they like this for that, and that level of resonance that can be able to create from that. So any additional thoughts or ideas on the power of connection on the road?

Nick Davies 30:12 Absolutely. And, you know, I’m making notes, I’m always making notes. I’m always writing things down, right? Just to that point, you’ve got to do that. Because you can’t do that, we have 12,000 to 60,000 thoughts every day. 85% of those are the same. They’re the ones that aren’t, we’re not going to remember we’ve got to write stuff down as an important thing to think about. So let us extend that right. Because to your point, everyone’s favorite subject is themselves and doesn’t come from an ego perspective. It just is right because they’ve always got stuff to talk about. I’d extend think about private as a coach, we, we create something which we call wow system, which is basically just creating those moments where you have people that are important to you great relationships that you can make and go Wow. What does that look like? I’m picking up okay, well, Bryan’s a Cubs fan. Right, good. Well, out but now No, no, no, let’s be specific. Okay, well, as we’re going through a relationship and I see something that is, is related to the Cubs, hey, I’m gonna get that I’m gonna give that to Bryan. Thinking of you. How cool is this? There you go. And so it doesn’t have to be stuff you buy people can be moments. Hey, thinking of you dropping your text today because I know it’s your anniversary. Congratulations. Do you want to be today? I offer you that challenge. Be the best. How do you want to be the best version of yourself? So it’s having that sensory acuity to listen to people to understand where they are, what’s important to them, and just offer that on a sincere, authentic level. And people appreciate that.

Bryan Paul Buckley 31:39 But Nick is so good, man. Man, it’s so good especially on the listening and picking up on the details. Yeah, my wife and I joke around our favorite parts of a segment of a movie was Dumb and Dumber when the two guys are sitting in them in the bathtub and I think it was Lloyd says you know to say why does Freida wanna break up with you anyway, it’s as well as she said I was in a Very good listener. Well, what else did she say? I don’t know, I really wasn’t paying attention. You know, it’s first of all, great writing, man. I mean, like, into little, you know, a little back and forth there. That’s awesome writing. But it’s very, very true that if people are willing to ask a question, being willing to listen to the answer, especially too if you’re looking as an opportunity to build rapport and build a connection with there, so I mean, Nick, I mean, we could spend hours on this, I mean, this would be a really good thing to come back on another episode and unpack a little bit more there because I think you’ve got a lot of gold in that area. So but let’s go talk about as a coach, what differences do you see in those who prioritize personal development? And those that don’t because energy habit number five is “develop personally and professionally”. So how do you see the differences for those who take that seriously in their lives? And what are the results what are their changes if you can unpack that?

Nick Davies 32:54 I love this question so much. Thank you. It’s everything because the default in life is the erosion of the quality of our life. Things don’t say that I get better. That’s a great quote, the default in life is the erosion of the quality of our life. Things do not get better by themselves. If you leave something alone, it gets worse. And we have to be very intentional about that. And what was the thing that we all have is our biggest asset. It’s us, we are our biggest asset. And so think about it. If you don’t invest in you, you’re moving towards something that can’t be sustained. And even if you’re happy with where you are, which I would challenge most people one because there’s always more progress equals happiness. Even if we got everything Hey, why do people that have everything quote, unquote, get bored and fed up? Because they’re not moving forward. They’re not growing. And so there’s always something that doesn’t matter where you are different part of your life, it’s so important to really invest in you. And that’s why I think it’s the most important thing, hey, look, what are you worth? How much are you investing in you? Because you that’s the only way you’re gonna get a payback from that. There’s no limit there. And so I would think about that, like, how actively are you using your resources to invest back into you? Maybe that’s money. Maybe that’s time. There are two main things we’re talking about here. Maybe it’s both together. How do you know that you’re getting the right return that you need? Are you really asking yourself honest questions? Are you willing to do the work? Are you willing to put yourself out there and be vulnerable about it? And look, ultimately, if you want to have a different level of life and play this game, a more fulfilling level, you’ve got to become that person. You’ve got to become that person first. You can’t get, you can’t make a billion dollars and then say, Okay, now I’m going to work on being the person I need to be there has a billion dollars, you become that person first. And then it appears That’s why people that win the lotto win $10 million in the lottery, lose it all because they’re not a person that has that type of money

Bryan Paul Buckley 35:08 Impressively quick, impressive. Right? So Nick, do you find that the reason people don’t develop or dive into personal development or push back on personal development on the two reasons that you gave because of money and time? Do you find that those are legitimate reasons/excuses when What’s your impression of that? I mean, obviously, when you’re talking about people are coming to you or exploring potentially coaching with you? What are their push backs of that and how valid are they?

Nick Davies 35:37 Yeah, it’s funny to me I love the excuses is what we tend to think about. I like to think about it also stories, you know, we’re always telling ourselves a story, but we’ve got this continual narrative of why we do justify the why are we doing things that we’re doing good or bad, you know, and so if your story is that, you know, “I just haven’t got enough money to invest in me right now.” “I don’t think that right now I’m in the right place.” And my favorite is, “I’m not ready.” Because if you unpack that, like, what does that really mean? You’re not ready to start? It’s the chicken and the egg scenario. Yeah, seriously, you know, so so it’s either just ask yourself that real question. I know that there are some realities of life and, and not everyone is always in the right place for coaching. And maybe that’s not the right situation, I get that. That’s absolutely fine. You know, ask yourself, what, what, where are you letting yourself off the hook right now? Are you in a place where you really have everything? Just comes back down to that, that honesty again, the questions that we don’t generally ask ourselves, and if you were the best place to start is at the beginning. We just get scared. Our mind is there not make us happy or we will have this 2 million-year-old mind we’ve heard about the other reptilian mind, monkey mind, whatever you want to call it. It’s there for survival. So we don’t die. So we don’t get attacked by saber-toothed tigers, we run up trees look after ourselves. That’s what, that’s what it’s there for it does a great job.

Bryan Paul Buckley 37:08 And I try to see other cities right now now that I’ve advanced, just so you know, not running up trees. Well, it’s just part of my adventure for the trip. But no, you’re exactly right. So what are some questions then Nick, that we could begin to unpack? So let’s say we’re, you know, just from the one we hear all the time, at least that I hear all the time has to do with time is I don’t have enough time I’m on the road, I barely have enough time to get my work done, let alone sleep or let alone eat healthier, let alone You know, personally develop which is usually the last of the energy habits for somebody to really really drill down into, which obviously could sometimes be their biggest benefit by doing that personal professional development. So what are some questions that maybe somebody who’s on the road listening to this has already gone man, I’m so busy right now, and start to think through that maybe some of these you’ve already unpacked already.

Nick Davies 37:56 Yeah, I love it. I mean, this I mean, I’ll challenge your own story. If you hear yourself saying haven’t got enough time and enough time? That’s the story. Is it really true? Do you want it to be true? If no, are you willing to change something? That’s the question you’ve got to ask yourself, are you willing to change? Because if you can honestly ask, just answer that and say no. Then you are where you are. You have to be willing to change. Because now you could, you could apply some specific actions towards that. And a great way to think about it would be okay, well, I just need to see what’s really true and track my day. Where am I actually spending my time? when I’m traveling? How much time on the plane? Am I just sitting there staring into space? When I actually use him? Am I actually watching movies? If you’re watching Netflix, any time of the day ever, you’ve got time.

Bryan Paul Buckley 38:47 That’s honesty. That’s true.

Nick Davies 38:50 That’s brutal honesty. And so so to do something like a tracker to show yourself where you’re spending your time, you won’t do that unless you’ve decided for yourself to answer the question. Whether you’re willing to investigate whether you’re willing to do something different, give yourself permission. That’s the first thing. But the tools. Gosh, they’re there. I’ve got as many tools as there is my, my arm is long. It’s just Are you willing to use them or not? Because oftentimes, it’s like, well, how do I do this? How do I do it? How do I do it? What’s the best thing to do here? What’s the best tool? And also release the best one is the one that you will actually use on the downswing.

Bryan Paul Buckley 39:28 And a tool that’s actually getting you back to the original point. Where do you want to go? who you want to be? And are you willing to stop and ask those questions? And sometimes the road really can be that I mean, think about it, Nick. We do have you referenced the airplane, you know, if I’m flying from Chicago to San Diego, for example, or Seattle, I got four-plus hours, man, I got time to do about all those things. I got time to be able to read I got time to ride. I got time to check the email. I’ve got time to watch a 30-minute show. I got a chance to what have you got a lot of time that’s there. Just a matter of how do we leverage those windows of time early morning. I’m not getting kids out of school, my wife to school, on a business travel day when I’m not traveling for business. So you’re right, there are windows of times. And to use your analogy, if you have time to watch Netflix, you have time. So I think that’s a great, great analogy. So let’s put a bow on this here. Any closing thoughts you’ve got from the kind of the journey we’ve had on this conversation.

 

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Why You May Not Be Performing at Your Best While Working From Home

We’re on part four of a six-part article series on how to leverage being home right now for an extended period of time to prepare you for the road.

Or to say it another way, Six Ways to Leverage Home Life to Improve Road Life.

The first article focused on energy habit #1 of MOVE and how to stand more (think up on your feet not down on your butt), walk more (think forward not just still), run more (think cardio and getting your heart rate up), and lift more (think strength training).

The second focused on energy habit #2 of FUEL and how to leverage the MTHC Formula (Make the Healthiest Choice) to continually hydrate (think early and often), eat clean and green (think fewer ingredients and less processed than more dark greens and vegetables), and snack strategically (think planned energy boost).

The third article focused on energy habit #3 of REST and how to leverage the Strategic Resting Formula to Sleep (think Improve then Increase), Breaks (think Move the Body, Rest the Mind), and Downtime (think Time to Be, NOT to Be On).

The first three energy habits are physical. Now we’ll shift to the mental energy habits.

I’m a HUGE Chicago sports fan and although we’ve had our championship droughts from time-to-time, I’ve seen every professional team in my lifetime win at least one championship.

The ultimate time to be a Chicago sports fan was in the 90s with the Bulls winning six championships in eight years.

In fact, it was so influential in sports history that ESPN created The Last Dance a 10-part docu-series on the last year of Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls but also tying in his entire career, key players, and moments throughout his time with the Bulls.

I’ve watched every episode at least two times and one of the major underlying themes was Michael Jordan’s incredible commitment to perform at the highest level over a long period of time. Even the best in the world, Magic Johnson and Larry Bird saw this in Jordan early on.

He was intentional in everything he did and willing to do whatever it took to perform at the highest level. He made everyone and everything better as a result.

Yet too many road warriors whether we’re on the road or now working from home could NOT take a more opposite approach.

We meander our way throughout our day feeling busy and overwhelmed but not producing results at the end of the day.

And this is why you may not be performing at your best while working from home.

In The Last Dance, Michael Jordan was willing to do whatever it took to perform at the highest level and would use absolutely anything to motivate him. And that’s exactly what we need to do right now working from home to prepare us for when we get back on the road.

Why You May Not Be Performing at Your Best While Working From Home

There are three elements to a successful Working-From-Home Day to perform at the highest level:

 

CLEAR PLAN

Key Phrase – Think Planned Priorities

I define a plan as “thinking on paper and telling your time where to go.”

There are three main parts of my working from home plan that I call Creating Your Master Evil Plan:

These ironically enough are the same three for Road Life and in the Elite Road Warrior book called Road Plan:

Energy Habits

I don’t leave my energy habits up for chance or just whenever I can fit them in. Ironically, I knock out 4 of my energy habits in the Early Morning Window Block before my workday even begins:

Develop – (read my Bible and another motivational book then write in my Elite Road Warrior Journal as well as develop content such as this podcast or a LinkedIn article)
Move – I’ll workout, consisting of Run More / Lift More
Connect – with the Fam in a thoughtful, meaningful way before the day begins
Fuel – hydrate and have a Clean & Green breakfast
I do all of these before the specific energy habit of Perform. Why? To get in what matters most to me and also sets my day up to succeed.

Key3

There are three key action items that will determine if your day ahead is a success or not.

I’m not talking about your overwhelming task list.

These are the Key3 that will make or break your day.

How do you know what to choose?

Well, if you DON’T get them done, you won’t feel like you made the most of your day, something was incomplete or missing, or you “didn’t leave it all on the field” to use a sports analogy.

Those are the days when I feel I was busy the entire day but don’t feel like I really got anything done. I look back and think “I was always doing something but what did I actually accomplish?”

For the record, I hate those days and avoid them whenever possible.

And it starts with creating my Key3 for the day ahead.

Here is my process:

  • Brainstorm what I want to accomplish for the day (and this is always a long list)
  • I look for themes – what are clusters I can group together
  • I narrow them down to the most crucial 3
  • I list them in order of most important, 2nd most, then 3rd.
  • Then I start with my 1st of the Key3.

I want to feel I made the absolute most of the day and did what was key to me and that comes from creating your Key3.

Note: I don’t toss out my ToDo List – I use it to brainstorm then come back to the incomplete portions of the list only AFTER I’ve completed my Key3.

Schedule

I still need to schedule my Breaks (to move the body, rest the mind) and Downtime (time to be, not to be on) which is my 5th energy habit of the day.

I need to schedule my meetings and appointments for the day ahead or review what has already been scheduled.

Remember the key phrase: Planned Priorities

We want to plan our priorities at the beginning of the day so you perform at your best doing what is most important – on purpose.

This is one element to a successful Working-From-Home Day to perform (which is energy habit #4) and at the highest level with. One down and two to go – after, this short break…

The 1st necessary element to a successful Working-From-Home Day to perform at the highest level was a CLEAR PLAN. Once we have that in place we move to element two:

 

BLOCK & TACKLE

Key Phrase – Think Planned Road Blocks

Block & Tackle is a football term that means doing the fundamentals to allow your team a chance at winning. A team that does not Block & Tackle well almost always loses because they are undisciplined which results in giving up costly points and useless penalties.

In the business world, Block & Tackle means you’re blocking out a specific amount of time to work on one specific task.

Did you catch that? Block & Tackle means you’re blocking out a specific amount of time to work on one specific task.

On the road, I refer to Block & Tackle as Road Blocks. We’re choosing to put the roadblocks out to put in or block in what is important. I’m intentionally blocking time out on the road for a specific time to work on one specific task.

But pertaining to working from home, we’ll stick with the term Time Blocks.

In the book, Start Finishing – How to go from Idea to Done by Charlie Gilkey, there are four specific time blocks:

  • Focus Time Blocks – 90-120 minutes blocks of time when we’re especially creative, inspired, and able to do high-level work that requires focus (this would be your key3). Focus blocks fuel your best work.

Critical – NO distractions / turn off all alerts / close email / turn off your phone

  • Social Time Blocks – 90-120 minute blocks of time when we’re primed and energetically in the right space to meet other people. This is interacting with people in real-time. This is your video and audio time when you’re home and have meetings, set calls, etc.

Critical – Spread these out throughout the day otherwise it will drain you. Also, take your calls on a walk. Productivity expert, Marcey Rader, calls them Walkie Talkies. Get some movement in, get outside, and double dip with the call and exercise.

  • Administrative Time Blocks – 30-60 minutes low-energy blocks of time when we’re not in the zone to do the work that requires “heavy lifting” but there are still types of work to do effectively. Think email, phone calls, CRM work, digital, paper filing, low-level filing, organizing, etc.

Critical – Batch admin tasks together which means lumping the same kind of work together (30 minutes of e-mailing, 30 minutes of calls, 30 minutes of CRM updates).

  • Recovery Time Blocks – variable-length blocks of time that we use for activities that recharge us such as a lunch break without a screen, going for a 15-minute mid-morning or mid-afternoon walk to “move the body and rest the mind.”

Remember, the other three-time blocks of focus, social and admin are energy output blocks, and just like a battery that outputs energy, they need to be charged. This is done with the Recovery Time Block.

Critical – Do NOT underestimate or devalue the importance of the recovery time block especially working from home. You need to recharge and stop thinking you’re superhuman and the quality of your work won’t suffer. Lies nothing but lies.

I live my day working from home leveraging these four-time blocks. Each day the amount and length will look different but that can be planned ahead of time and must be scheduled.

Be intentional about putting up Road Blocks that intentionally keep what you want in your day.

The 3rd necessary element to a successful Working-From-Home Day to perform at the highest level is

 

ENERGY PACING

Key Phrase – Think Planned Energy Boosts

This element of Energy Pacing is the unsung hero of Perform. It’s the Scottie Pippen in energy habits.

You need to know your energy levels throughout the day.

It’s key you match your time block with your energy level. Don’t try and do Focus Work if you’re tired or hungry – your results will suffer.

Pacing is monitoring your energy levels.

I use a term called an Energyologist (another Buckley-ism). My made-up definition for my made-up word is:

AN ENERGYOLOGIST IS THE PERSONAL STUDY OF YOUR ENERGY

The only person who can know your energy is you. Most people don’t even know their own energy levels, so how in the world could they possibly know or even care about YOUR energy?

Become an Energyologist for your own good because it’s a key element for effective pacing.

You must be responsible to monitor your energy levels.

Pacing is asking the right questions.

1. When is my energy highest within the day?

Everyone is different from how energy flows within us during the average day on the road and now at home.

If you tend to be more of a morning person in general, your energy may be the highest at that section of the day. But is it in the early morning when you first wake up? Mid or late morning? The entire morning? If you’re an evening person in general, is it early evening? Late evening? The entire evening?

The key is to match specific levels of work to your energy level. For example, I have the most energy to be creative first thing in the morning. I’m not necessarily social at that time, but my mind is clearest to create. This is my writing time, project time, etc.

This is when I tend to do my deep work, so I try to do whatever I can, even on the road, to match my highest energy level to the time of day that can allow me to maximize my time and efforts. It’s a challenge and a dance, but it’s worth the effort.

2. Why is my energy low right now?

Often, the answer may be as simple as, it’s 2 pm and you’ve not stopped for lunch. Or what you ate for lunch is sitting in your gut like a 20 lb. dumbbell because it was a poor choice. Or because the only movement you’ve had in numerous hours is your fingers on the keyboard and multiple yawn reps.

Sometimes, it’s bigger like running on little or low-quality sleep. This cannot be solved at the moment but can be in a few hours by getting to bed on time or even earlier to bank energy for tomorrow afternoon. Finding the why of your energy drop is key to solving the problem and not repeating it day after day. STOP the bleeding.

3. Is there anything I can do to change my energy level?

Once you know why your energy level is low, you can do something about it.

Go eat something healthy.

Stand up and stretch.

Take a break and go for a quick walk to move the body and rest the mind.

You’ll be surprised how much doing something different puts positive fuel in your body or even gets you moving.

Certain tasks give me a hit of energy so I’ll switch to that task. Listening to some music gets me up along with some quick-hit exercises like push-ups, burpees, and leg squats to get that heart rate up.

You need to figure out what can change your energy level besides getting a hit of sugar that you’ll regret later.

4. How can I match my tasks with my energy?

Sometimes a small tweak is not going to change your energy level. So, I pick a low-energy task that requires more time, and I dedicate the time to that task. I have a list of low-energy tasks I can turn to at any given moment that needs forward motion.

These are the no-brainer, little-to-no-thinking tasks that need attention but definitely NOT during high-energy moments.

Often, working on a few of these tasks for 15 or 30 minutes is all I need to snap me out of the low-energy funk.

Other times, I’m going to ride the low-energy tasks out for the remainder of my day because it’s just one of those days. It’s not a big deal when it is mid- to late- afternoon, but it’s a major concern if it’s 1:05 pm. Learn to match energy with the task.

Pacing is making key changes to boost my energy

1. Change of position

Stretch, stand, walk, do push-ups (seriously, try it!), and just move. Our bodies aren’t designed to sit in one place for long periods of time and this is especially true when you work from home and are seemingly always on a Zoom Call. This ironically zaps the energy out of us, even though all we’re doing is sitting.

2. Change of location

What if I worked in a different location? It may mean moving to a different room or possibly to a completely new environment to make the most of the afternoon. If I’m struggling with my energy, I’ll move to the patio and bring my noise-canceling headphones. A different vibe often brings me a hit of much-needed energy.

3. Change of activity

Learning to have a pulse in my energy is huge for productivity. It’s SO easy to try and force something when the reality is your energy is just not there. Don’t force it. Adjust and evaluate. Sometimes, the worst thing is to force something that ends up taking twice as long with results that are half as good. Holy bad math, Batman.

If you were to only change your energy levels throughout your day, you would see a major difference with the results of your work at the end of the day.

 

Let’s Make This Happen! Your action items may be:

  • Doing as many energy habits as you can before your workday begins
  • Creating a Key3
  • Getting better at scheduling your day
  • Creating Time Blocks for Focus Work, Administrative Work, and Recovery time
  • Monitoring your Energy Levels and making changes in the moment to increase your energy

There is so much here to help you perform at the highest level for your work. I challenge you to take and focus on one or two items to up your work game at home.

Michael Jordan is the best basketball player of all time! – Hands down, drop the mic, I’m out

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